Comments on: Black and White http://www.orbitbooks.net/2010/02/08/black-and-white/ Orbit Books Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:58:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Austin H. Williams http://www.orbitbooks.net/2010/02/08/black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-3143 Austin H. Williams Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:26:21 +0000 http://www.orbitbooks.net/?p=7305#comment-3143 I empathise with this feeling a great deal. I appreciate complexity, but I can also enjoy the sort of mythological, some might even say "primitive" presentation of stories with good guys and bad guys. Of course, it goes one step further with me, because I <em>do</em> actually believe in the existence of Good and Evil, but that's beside the point. I enjoy <em>Watchmen</em> for its complex deconstruction, but just as much I enjoy <em>Kingdom Come</em> for its examination of what it does to stories and us - the readers of those stories - when all morals are made relative, and the good guys are only the good guys because the writer told us so. It's good to know I'm not alone in this assessment. I empathise with this feeling a great deal. I appreciate complexity, but I can also enjoy the sort of mythological, some might even say “primitive” presentation of stories with good guys and bad guys. Of course, it goes one step further with me, because I do actually believe in the existence of Good and Evil, but that’s beside the point.

I enjoy Watchmen for its complex deconstruction, but just as much I enjoy Kingdom Come for its examination of what it does to stories and us – the readers of those stories – when all morals are made relative, and the good guys are only the good guys because the writer told us so.

It’s good to know I’m not alone in this assessment.

]]> By: AL http://www.orbitbooks.net/2010/02/08/black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-3141 AL Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:08:55 +0000 http://www.orbitbooks.net/?p=7305#comment-3141 I completely agree, but it's hard to find "good" good-guys anymore. I think the reason so many reboots and adaptations try to make characters morally ambiguous is that the old writers got lazy with their good guys, and the good guys got boring. And then you wind up in a situation where the bad guys are just so much more interesting. Frankly, I'm more curious about what Dr. Doom is up to than whatever pillow fight is happening over at the Fantastic Four Compound. I completely agree, but it’s hard to find “good” good-guys anymore. I think the reason so many reboots and adaptations try to make characters morally ambiguous is that the old writers got lazy with their good guys, and the good guys got boring. And then you wind up in a situation where the bad guys are just so much more interesting. Frankly, I’m more curious about what Dr. Doom is up to than whatever pillow fight is happening over at the Fantastic Four Compound.

]]> By: Paul http://www.orbitbooks.net/2010/02/08/black-and-white/comment-page-1/#comment-3140 Paul Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:05:13 +0000 http://www.orbitbooks.net/?p=7305#comment-3140 Or you can not like Watchmen for the reasons I do. It was a plodding, boring comic with a climax of an alien creature being teleported dead into a city, while during the entire story the underlying threat of nuclear war was a major theme that comes to nothing by the end because Moore uses the alien instead of nuclear war to frighten the populace. Sound very silly actually. And did I mention a boring comic. Extremely boring. Or you can not like Watchmen for the reasons I do. It was a plodding, boring comic with a climax of an alien creature being teleported dead into a city, while during the entire story the underlying threat of nuclear war was a major theme that comes to nothing by the end because Moore uses the alien instead of nuclear war to frighten the populace. Sound very silly actually.

And did I mention a boring comic. Extremely boring.

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